Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and more
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cheese
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Just finished testing and so far I have concluded if you don't use any nintendo channels (no wiiware, vc, or wii games), you don't need a disc drive connected to the console for the system to function (for my testing I left all disc drive cables disconnected). Emulators and nintendont do not require a disc drive or stand-in chip. So, if you don't need wii-game functionality (eg more efficient gc portable with emulators) then you can just lop the dd connector off and forget about it ^-^
Just finished testing and so far I have concluded if you don't use any nintendo channels (no wiiware, vc, or wii games), you don't need a disc drive connected to the console for the system to function (for my testing I left all disc drive cables disconnected). Emulators and nintendont do not require a disc drive or stand-in chip. So, if you don't need wii-game functionality (eg more efficient gc portable with emulators) then you can just lop the dd connector off and forget about it ^-^
Shank
Formerly Known As Dyxlesci
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Very interesting. I'm curious if it is written into the software of the games itself to do ocassional checks, or if it is a channel/ios coding to call the drive. Im not sure, but the latter would be easier to fix, with a single mod while the former would require individual patches on a per game basis.
Its all good info to know, but with how small wasps are, it probably isn't worth it to run it without one. Losing Wii games like PM and all the virtual console games just doesn't seem worth it.
But hot Dang cheese, you are on fire. Keep it up.
Very interesting. I'm curious if it is written into the software of the games itself to do ocassional checks, or if it is a channel/ios coding to call the drive. Im not sure, but the latter would be easier to fix, with a single mod while the former would require individual patches on a per game basis.
Its all good info to know, but with how small wasps are, it probably isn't worth it to run it without one. Losing Wii games like PM and all the virtual console games just doesn't seem worth it.
But hot Dang cheese, you are on fire. Keep it up.
Shank
Formerly Known As Dyxlesci
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
You sir, have a lot of reading to catch up on. Welcome to the future my friend. Ill fill you in.
The MIOS (IOS used to load gamecube games) used to block off all wii functionality.
DIOS MIOS changed all that. It was a modification of the MIOS. It enabled USB loading, but not SD loading. Its been out for years. A modified version DIOS MIOS LITE, added SD card functionality, but doesn't allow USB.
But, surprisingly, DIOS MIOS is actually discontinued support wise.
Ever heard of nintendont? Those clever Playstations figured out how to run a software interpreter to make gamecube games run natively on the wii and use all its capabilities without being restricted by or even using the mios. It'll even work on wiis without a MIOS, such as the Wii U. Its wonderful. Ive been following the project since day one, and its progress and capabilities just blows my mind. You may want to brace yourself for this one:
https://github.com/FIX94/Nintendont
Copy paste in 3... 2... 1...
Wii > Gamecube
Wii is master race.
You sir, have a lot of reading to catch up on. Welcome to the future my friend. Ill fill you in.
The MIOS (IOS used to load gamecube games) used to block off all wii functionality.
DIOS MIOS changed all that. It was a modification of the MIOS. It enabled USB loading, but not SD loading. Its been out for years. A modified version DIOS MIOS LITE, added SD card functionality, but doesn't allow USB.
But, surprisingly, DIOS MIOS is actually discontinued support wise.
Ever heard of nintendont? Those clever Playstations figured out how to run a software interpreter to make gamecube games run natively on the wii and use all its capabilities without being restricted by or even using the mios. It'll even work on wiis without a MIOS, such as the Wii U. Its wonderful. Ive been following the project since day one, and its progress and capabilities just blows my mind. You may want to brace yourself for this one:
https://github.com/FIX94/Nintendont
Copy paste in 3... 2... 1...
Wii > Gamecube
Wii is master race.
cheese
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Did some work on the a/v portion of the board, started mapping the pins of the connector. Nintendo has a interesting way of numbering the pins on this interesting connector, since it combines the a/v port and the sensor bar power pins all on one piece, the numbering is 1-16 for the a/v, and then 17 + 18 for the sensor bar. So far, I have mapped the following pins (I'll continue mapping and update with more pin connections)
1 audio left
2 audio right
3 composite video
5 gnd
6 gnd
12 gnd
17 sensor bar (goes through C117 and FIL31 to 5v)
18 sensor bar (probably switching gnd/nc, leads to FIL47 -> base Q24, emitter Q24 -> gnd, collector Q24 -> TP216)
All research, including full size scans of sanded RVL-40 are publicly hosted on my server, here. If you've got something you'd like added, just pm me and I'll get it up on there! This is a community effort after all
Did some work on the a/v portion of the board, started mapping the pins of the connector. Nintendo has a interesting way of numbering the pins on this interesting connector, since it combines the a/v port and the sensor bar power pins all on one piece, the numbering is 1-16 for the a/v, and then 17 + 18 for the sensor bar. So far, I have mapped the following pins (I'll continue mapping and update with more pin connections)
1 audio left
2 audio right
3 composite video
5 gnd
6 gnd
12 gnd
17 sensor bar (goes through C117 and FIL31 to 5v)
18 sensor bar (probably switching gnd/nc, leads to FIL47 -> base Q24, emitter Q24 -> gnd, collector Q24 -> TP216)
All research, including full size scans of sanded RVL-40 are publicly hosted on my server, here. If you've got something you'd like added, just pm me and I'll get it up on there! This is a community effort after all
GarageFactory
Member
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Wow this is amazing I can't wait to see more progress I just bought a new wii today and I'm hoping to make it portable I'm very excited for the future of wii portablizing
Wow this is amazing I can't wait to see more progress I just bought a new wii today and I'm hoping to make it portable I'm very excited for the future of wii portablizing
Shank
Formerly Known As Dyxlesci
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Cheese, I love you man. Keep it up! I plan to make a thread later that encompasses information about all wiis rather than the differences between them.
GarageFactory
If you don't plan on purchasing more than 1, I suggest not cutting just yet. We are unraveling the inner workings, but until we figure how the onboard regulaton system works, we won't be able to help you diagnose problems much or tell you where to cut.
I'm glad the discussion has picked up and people are interested.
Cheese, I love you man. Keep it up! I plan to make a thread later that encompasses information about all wiis rather than the differences between them.
GarageFactory
If you don't plan on purchasing more than 1, I suggest not cutting just yet. We are unraveling the inner workings, but until we figure how the onboard regulaton system works, we won't be able to help you diagnose problems much or tell you where to cut.
I'm glad the discussion has picked up and people are interested.
bentomo
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Wow that sounds pretty good. Just ordered a black rvl-001 to try out all the USB loading and see what software configuration works. I'm ordering another one to see if I can get it to load Wii games without a fusion or dvd drive.
Wow that sounds pretty good. Just ordered a black rvl-001 to try out all the USB loading and see what software configuration works. I'm ordering another one to see if I can get it to load Wii games without a fusion or dvd drive.
Razor-keen
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Hi. I'm getting a late start on this, looks like I've got some ground to cover in catching up to speed. I'm absolutely into the concept of stripping down the system to its bare minimum in order to essentially modulize the console. I've combined systems in the past creating combos, but have always been limited to having a one system on at time approach. I believe the Wii may be the key to making them all act as one system due to its flexible software, so naturally any help I can provide essentially helps me as well. Where are we by the way. I'm reading over this at lunch an haven't actually sat down to make notes yet, so forgive me if its self explanatory.
Hi. I'm getting a late start on this, looks like I've got some ground to cover in catching up to speed. I'm absolutely into the concept of stripping down the system to its bare minimum in order to essentially modulize the console. I've combined systems in the past creating combos, but have always been limited to having a one system on at time approach. I believe the Wii may be the key to making them all act as one system due to its flexible software, so naturally any help I can provide essentially helps me as well. Where are we by the way. I'm reading over this at lunch an haven't actually sat down to make notes yet, so forgive me if its self explanatory.
Razor-keen
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
I do have a question though. I'm trying to make a top loading disc drive work for Wii. I've frankenfied one that works out of PS parts but I was wondering if there is an easier way without using wode. I was hoping the Wii mini has and easy solution, but 100 bucks for a single drive is a little steep.
Edit: better disc drive work on the Wii.
I do have a question though. I'm trying to make a top loading disc drive work for Wii. I've frankenfied one that works out of PS parts but I was wondering if there is an easier way without using wode. I was hoping the Wii mini has and easy solution, but 100 bucks for a single drive is a little steep.
Edit: better disc drive work on the Wii.
Shank
Formerly Known As Dyxlesci
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Im not really understanding what you are trying to say/ask as it seems you are just thinking outloud in text form.
Buuuuuut...
You can find used Wii minis on ebay, and local stuff like Craigslist for much much cheaper than new. I have purchased 2 Wii minis, 1 for $20 and one for $25. However, almost nothing is known about the Wii mini, so we won't really be able to help you. I wouldn't recommend going through all that work for a top loading disc drive. I say ditch the disc drive altogether and USB load everything
Im not really understanding what you are trying to say/ask as it seems you are just thinking outloud in text form.
Buuuuuut...
You can find used Wii minis on ebay, and local stuff like Craigslist for much much cheaper than new. I have purchased 2 Wii minis, 1 for $20 and one for $25. However, almost nothing is known about the Wii mini, so we won't really be able to help you. I wouldn't recommend going through all that work for a top loading disc drive. I say ditch the disc drive altogether and USB load everything
legofan623
Well-Known Member
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
And if you do happen to get a Wii Mini drive working on a Wii, it won't accept GC discs because Nintendo put a different firmware on the disk drives for RVL-101 and up. I guess there's always Nintendont, but then it makes having a DD useless. Long story short, USB/SD loading > DD.
And if you do happen to get a Wii Mini drive working on a Wii, it won't accept GC discs because Nintendo put a different firmware on the disk drives for RVL-101 and up. I guess there's always Nintendont, but then it makes having a DD useless. Long story short, USB/SD loading > DD.
Razor-keen
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Its more for the authenticity. Its basically the Wii and other stuff crammed into a GameCube case. I do have a working drive I made but it isn't the easiest thing to make. The Wii is to big for the case, so my solution was to add a retrode 2 to the mix and locate the cartridge slots to the left and right facing vertically. It hides the board and is functional at the same time.
Its more for the authenticity. Its basically the Wii and other stuff crammed into a GameCube case. I do have a working drive I made but it isn't the easiest thing to make. The Wii is to big for the case, so my solution was to add a retrode 2 to the mix and locate the cartridge slots to the left and right facing vertically. It hides the board and is functional at the same time.
Razor-keen
Member
Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
After reading more of these posts, I'm not sure I have much to offer. I've had some success in using kapton to make custom ribbons and link different components together after cutting them apart. It helps to keep everything from looking like a spiders nest. Let me know if I can help in any way.
After reading more of these posts, I'm not sure I have much to offer. I've had some success in using kapton to make custom ribbons and link different components together after cutting them apart. It helps to keep everything from looking like a spiders nest. Let me know if I can help in any way.
cheese
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Re: Wii bit smaller: Revisions, Die shrinks, Layers, and mor
Can you make ribbon cables where all the wires are (nearly, within 1mm or less) the same length? That would help greatly in relocating the WiFi module, since (I believe) you can buy the connectors off digikey or something
Can you make ribbon cables where all the wires are (nearly, within 1mm or less) the same length? That would help greatly in relocating the WiFi module, since (I believe) you can buy the connectors off digikey or something
