Adshare+Forum theme+other announcements.

Are these good ideas?

  • Is the new theme, in general, a good idea?

    Votes: 22 84.6%
  • How about revising the adshare system?

    Votes: 19 73.1%
  • The store, good idea if done right?

    Votes: 24 92.3%

  • Total voters
    26
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Selling Through ModRetro
I think the idea of being able to sell items through ModRetro, store-style, would be great.
Portables and other electronic devices.
I DO think, however, that ModRetro needs to make something off of this.
Not a lot.
And to be honest, probably not even from the sale itself.
I'd say that money would have to come from something else that's simple.
Like, let someone Pay to not have ads on their items page.
Or perhaps making people pay a small (Think <$2) sign-up fee to be able to sell on ModRetro, etc.
Something along those lines.

ModRetro Merch
The idea of a ModRetro store, with ModRetro stuff.
I think it's a bloody cool idea.
Sure, the usual, T-Shirts (which I personally wouldn't buy), hats, mugs (which I'd buy in a heartbeat), etc.
That's all simple, and it'd be cool.
But also outright products, stuff that's not necessarily "Merch", but just COOL stuff that Retro Gamers would love.
This is ModRetro after all.
Anything from old games and accessories down to Merchandise related to Retro Gaming.

Ads Outright
Ads, their needed, they're worth a surprising amount, their good for the forums.
The money from Advertising on this site really ought to drive this site as a whole.
Or at least, that's a nice idea, isn't it?

Ad Revenue
Now, what can we do with Ad Revenue?
Let's make a quick differentiation here. Ad Revenue is free money, essentially.
It's support from the user base.
Money from a Shop, etc, is VERY different, and not at all what I'm talking about here.
I'm saying strictly Ad Revenue.
Right now, we already make enough to pay for this site, which is WONDERFUL.
Even a little extra.
As we expand, gain more users, content, etc, our Ad Revenue will go up, that's simple to understand.
If we were to be as extreme as doing something like an Ad-Cow to draw in large numbers of users, we could increase our Ad Revenue TREMENDOUSLY.
As far as I'm concerned, this should ALL go toward supporting the site itself.
Paying for hosting, etc. BUT, of course, there's extra. I don't expect that to change.
As far as I'm concerned this extra should be put toward benefiting the community.
Fun and Games and attracting traffic all at once: Contests.

Contests
They've already been mentioned, thankfully.
I can speak from quite a bit of experience, Ad-Revenue piles up FAST as your traffic increases, and you can quickly afford some pretty sweet prizes.
Doing large contests, ESPECIALLY effortless ones, drive traffic, and are frikkin fun.
Obviously, contests involving modding of some sort (Case-Mods, LED Contest, Portable Making, etc) are great too, and relevant to the community.
But small, fun prizes, issued for effortless enter-and-win type contests are GREAT for traffic.
As well as simple stuff. "Guess the Game", showing a tiny portion of a screenshot from a classic title. Winner is drawn from people with correct answer.
Stuff like that is EASY.
And contests do well, for the community as a whole.

Ad-Share - How & Why it Can Work
I don't know if it was originally Palmer's idea or not, but it's a great idea regardless.
Adshare, being able to earn revenue from your threads alone.
For those who don't know, the idea here is that users can earn a portion of the Ad-Revenue gained from views and clicks within their thread.
Factoring AdShare into my previously discussed topic of Ad-Revenue is actually very simple.
It's simply a matter of calculating how much of the Revenue was gained from a user's thread, and givin' 'em the cash.
But, of course, that wouldn't work as-is.
Everybody would be getting pennies and nickels here and there, and the Index and Forum pages would be all that accounts for ModRetro's Revenue!
So that's not quite how it would be done.
Now, there are two things I can say would honestly work.
The first would be the Minimum Method.
Simply that a single thread must generate a minimum amount of revenue (my preference), OR a minimum percentage of revenue, in order to collect their share.
That way small threads that make up a few cents don't pay out, where as high-traffic threads with many posts that actually make a few bucks, contribute to the Poster's wallet.
The second method, honestly, wouldn't work without the first. It "could", but you'd hit the same problem as straight-up division.
The idea is submission.
People must ASK for their thread to be added to the Ad-Share program, which it's part of for a set or variable amount of time.
So long as the thread is accepted into the Ad-Share program, they will receive their portion of the revenue at the end of the month.
Now, employing these two methods together, I would consider ideal.
Only the first method, and, well, there's not much wrong with that.
But employing both methods, users with proper threads that are driving traffic can collect earnings, while others who aren't generating traffic, OR simply would like to allow ModRetro to keep it's share, don't have to be paid.
Putting these two methods would be ideal for ModRetro as a Community, as far as I'm concerned.
Only the first method, well, we'd see quite a few happy users.
Regardless, what matters is that it's managed in a set way.
Straight-division would run ModRetro into the ground, and land a number of people with $0.05 PayPal Payments that they pay $0.12 fees on.
 
Auterpager add-on + Firefox = WIN.

I could set the posts-per-page count higher. I'd have to talk with palmer, though.

Back on topic now, plz! :tophat:
 
Theme:
Doesnt really matter to me. As long as I can find what I am looking for quickly, then it could be purple with orange polka dots for all I care.

AdShare:
I don't think you should only pay if it gets to a reasonable amount.
I think you should just have some sort of system where you have a huge list off all members and the ad revenue they made, and then people can request their money when they want it.
This is ideal for people like me, who probably won't get much ad revenue but need small amounts of money from time to time.
I buy things on ebay all the time for like $3. So if I am dirt broke and only made $5 in revenue, I could request to withdraw my money.

Store:
I don't understand really.
Are WE going to be able to sell things there?
If so, how would we stop spammers?
Also this would make ModRetro responsible for people being scammed, as the transaction was performed on this site.
So unless we only allow trustworthy people to sell on there, it would be hel to take care of.

Other things I have been meaning to say:
[Edit} I am not too fond of th Chatroom. It is mundane and decreases productivity.
Also many people have been asking questions that could easily help other people in the chatroom, so nobody ese but who is there can see it.
One more thing: The chatroom will become a breeding ground for trolls. Fights can happen to easily and, with very little rules, racial slurs and hate can be said easily.
THIS DOESNT MEAN I WONT USE IT! I just don't care for it.

Also:
WE NEED A MODRETRO RADIO!!!
 
Well, then maybe a mod/admin should say something along the lines of, "don't post questions in the chatroom unless they are uber simple and you are just being a noob."

The store would have to be mostly just modretro admins/mods, and then they could set up a system to allow members who they trust to sell. And if you use paypal, there is no problem, you're covered.

Would you rather have fights like that go on in the forums then? The chatroom should say, it gives us a place to goof off besides the forums.
 
bacteria said:
The vote options aren't clear, so for my 2 cents:

Great, looking forward to a nice custom theme; yay!

Ad money - I say option 2: "All the ad money goes to me (PalmerTech), and I will use it to pay for hosting first, and use the rest to buy prizes for contests."

Official ModRetro store - great! Any proposal to provide cheap bits and bobs to everyone who wants to buy them, and also provide profit to the site and members is excellent!

BTW - I have indicated to PalmerTech that if my project wins prizes in the BH compo that those prizes go directly into the ModRetro prize fund rather than to me; you guys can then win them in future compos! ;)

:thumb:

My thoughts exactly!

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THEME: Meh, you can do it if you want, but it's kind of pointless. If you do, make sure it is an OPTION, don't force it on us plese.

ADSHARE: Most of the money should go towards the site, contests, etc, but a little should go towards people. Maybe track people's threads and views, when it gets high enough you can claim it! May be too much work though, so maybe just the significant number idea.

STORE: As for selling member items through it, no. It would be a pointless middleman. As for selling split-up lots, group buys, ModRetro merch, gadgets, Heck yeah!
 
My two cents:

I agree with Bacteria as well. I also don't think that people should really get paid for thier submissions, unless it makes a huge draw to the sight. Even then, if they're selling the project, any ad money generated as a result of the project should go to the site. Basically, I'd rather donate to the site than get paid by it.
 
XCVG said:
STORE: As for selling member items through it, no. It would be a pointless middleman. As for selling split-up lots, group buys, ModRetro merch, gadgets, Heck yeah!

If there are people who sell the same thing over and over again like PSone modchips, I think it would be great to give them a place to sell it in the store. Otherwise, no, members should not be able to sell things there.
 
snowpenguin said:
XCVG said:
STORE: As for selling member items through it, no. It would be a pointless middleman. As for selling split-up lots, group buys, ModRetro merch, gadgets, Heck yeah!

If there are people who sell the same thing over and over again like PSone modchips, I think it would be great to give them a place to sell it in the store. Otherwise, no, members should not be able to sell things there.
Perhaps, but DEFINITELY not modchips. They're illegal, even for obsolete systems. I think.
 
Mario said:
Perhaps, but DEFINITELY not modchips. They're illegal, even for obsolete systems. I think.

I believe the chips themselves aren't illegal, but the bios might be. Eithier way, a disclaimer message could be posted in the description saying something like "THIS PRODUCT IS PRODUCED AND SOLD BY A THRID-PARTY THAT IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH MODRETRO" and if Sony contacts us (not likely), that specific chip could be taken down.
 
"ModChips" illegality is extremely debatable.

Don't worry about it.
Selling 'em is safe for the most part, especially for older systems.

Now, selling, say, Wii Modchips with a big "PLAY FREE GAMES FROM THE INTERNET WITH THIS CHIP!" banner, well you're gonna get in trouble eventually.
But the classic PSOne Modchip + "Play your legal backup collection, don't worry about your old games wearing out ever again!", you won't be bothered.
 
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