Wii DVD/Wiikey Fusion/WODE (sd/hdd loading) on Gamecube

Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Thought so... Ahwell on to look for another screen...

I have done some serious testing and have made the following discoveries:

The gamecube 3.4v line can accept a much higher voltage. I have put 3.4v to 5.0v through it and everything works fine. Amp draw is about the same on every voltage I've put through. 0.8A to be exact.

As explained before the 5v line is not needed. The memorycards only use the 3.4v line. I have however not tested a memorycard with a higher voltage. That will be tested soon.

The controller will also work with voltages from 3.4v to 5.0v. You can connect the 5v rumble line to the same controller voltage input. That way when you have a small 3v rumble motor you can have a decent rumble in game.

The wiikey which also uses the 3.4v line can also accept higher voltages. I have also put through 3.4v to 5.0v and it still works properly. This also means you can rewire the 5v line from the disc connector to the 3.3v line on the wiikey. Making it connect without extra wires to the discdrive port. If anybody could make a little pcb they could make things allot easier for people who can't solder that well.

Now the whole idea of all these tests are that you can run the gamecube with one 3.7v battery and one regulator. As the gamecubes 3.4v line can have higher voltages the battery can be connected directly. All that's needed is a regulator to output 1.9v which can handle a 6-7 amp draw. This one for example (PTH04T240F)


I also did some game testing and have found out the that you CAN play region games not of your region. I have connected a PAL gamecube to the wiikey switch in PAL mode with the dipswitches and was able to play allot of USA games. Some games just show up with a black screen after the gamecube logo boot but many games I've tried work. The video output isn't always that good because of the way the PAL gamecube video chip handels the resolution. Some games won't fill the whole screen but hey it's better than not beeing able to play out of region games at all. This will also work on USA games with PAL games as far as I know. That has not been tested though so let's keep it open for now.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

I believe the minimum voltage of a 3.7v cell is 3v. Will the 3.4v line run on 3v or would it cut early?

Also, for audio, you just skip the onboard audio amp and wire directly to your own, correct?
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Correct I'll post a pic of the video/audio pinout tomorrow. As for the 3.4v line it will work with 3.0v but that is the lowest it will work. I believe it started to act a little weird when it got any lower.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

What would be the recomended Mah for a 3.7 v battery/what is the ma draw...or will there need to be further testing?And will the mobo run cooler now and be more efficiant?
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Well most likely the cube will draw around 3-4 amps on 3.4v not 100% sure though. I will be getting my new regulator in a couple of weeks. When it get's here I'll make a little guide and do some further testing. It will draw about 2 amps on 7.4v though so it probably won't matter if you use 2 cells in parallel or series. This is only really practical if you only want to use one 3.7v cell.

Otherwise your better of using the original custom regulator I made.

The CPU,GPU and memory all use 1.9v and other surrounding components use the 3.4v line also so it will not run more efficient than it already does. It will not get any cooler and it will not make a huge difference in battery life compared to my original ratings.

The only thing that is gone now is the 5v line which drawed only 0.5A. At 7.4v or 11.1v that's only like 0.1-2A so it doesn't make a world of difference.

Only time will tell what kind of battery life differences it has.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Do you think its better in terms of sizing to use 3.7v with high amps? or go with 7.4v and slightly lower amps. i know battery life will be the same, but I mean in terms of flexibility in where you can put your cells in the case. Just curious what you think.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Well that all depends on your placement. I would probably go with two smaller lower amp rate 3.7v cells so I could put one on each side of the portable and have the heatsink in the middle and fan either blow up or back. The backside of the gc motherboard get's quite hot too so to sandwich the battery between the screen and gc board probably wouldn't be such a good idea. Don't want your little portable to blow up in your face now would we. Also having a 7.4v battery have certain advantages too. Beeing able to power a more power hungry screen for example.

But again it all depends on your actual design. I don't like portrait so much so in general I use landscape.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Here's the av pinout: (green is ground)
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Here's a little teaser of my gamecubepocket.

Pics here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2 ... af59f910d8
Vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCgen5N5j8

As seen in the pics the cut board fits into a psp 1000 case. It also fits inside a psp 2000 case but that's too thin. The psp 1000 case might need to be a little thicker too due to the heatsink and batteries. Beat that Tchay :p

Note that if you cut the mobo this much you will have to rewire some small components for the controllers and memorycards. Once I get it done I will try to make a little guide. Also there are allot of components on the gamecube board which are not used I will also add that to the guide once done.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

disgustingly small.

this is just....i dont even....
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Is it not!! :p

Oh by the way all those 5 legged transistor chips on the controller side can all be removed and still have both memorycards and all controller ports work. ;)
 
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Tchay said:
disgustinglyAMAZINGLYsmall.

this is just....i dont even....
This is unbelievable. Zenloc is the man.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

It's exactly what I was *Can'tSayThisOnTV*ing hoping for.
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Its like violatingly small now! In my oppinion nintendo needs to improve their portable technology a bit because modders are about to surpass them with their old systems!
Ive already spoken about this but other than the heatsync the analog sticks are probably the tallest thing left...I see youve taken apart a psp.Do you think you could test if the analog stick from it is usable...or any idea if it would work? Nice tracing too btw.I knew there had to be quite a few components of no use on the mobo like for the extraplugs on the bottom.Its probably gonna make the gamecube seem so much more simple when you get those suckers off! :pirate:


Oh and what model or revision is the bored you trimmed?
thanks
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

God *Can'tSayThisOnTV*ing Dang, zenloc. God *Can'tSayThisOnTV*ing Dang.

Seriously, the *Can'tSayThisOnTV*?

What?

SS
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

LIKE GAWD *Can'tSayThisOnTV*ING Dang

OKAY EVERYONE GO MAKE GAMECUBE PORTABLES NAO

Ya know what would be really messed up?

A gamecube portable inside of a 3DS case. :trollface: :trollface: :trollface:
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Just to keep everyone in the loop, There have been some users including my self having issues with the Wiikey mod. Some people are reporting bad compatibility of games etc. I'm happy to say that these issues are NOT game compatibility related. The issues seem to be related to certain early GC motherboard revisions (these early boards may have a timing issue). Its of course all still being looked into. Below are the results that I personally have gotten with the Wiikey.

The board that is not working properly for me is a NTSC-U DOL-CPU-10 revision motherboard. This is printed on the GC motherboard underneath the heatsink. This is the GC I bought on US launch day. So it may only be very early revision boards not working. This is the same board I have been doing all my testing on. The Wii DVD drive DOES work on this board. A few other users have reported the same issues with this motherboard.

The board that I have Wiikey working on is a NTSC-U DOL-CPU-11. This is the same NTSC-U board that Zenloc was using to test the DVD Drive and the Fusion. Bearteam, a GC-Forever.com forum member is having issues with his DOL-CPU-11 NTSC-J motherboard however.

I also have a cut up NTSC-U DOL-CPU-20 motherboard. when I get some time I will also wire this board up to test. Gonna be a bit though.

Some video's of the different motherboards behavior.

DOL-CPU-11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU2mHNJbrCI

DOL-CPU-10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDUKNRxJq6U

As you can see the DOL-11 board works flawlessly. I can press the "eject button" whenever I want and the GC does not hang. It also loads all the games i've tossed at it so far without error.

The DOL-10 board however hangs when the "eject button" is pressed UNLESS it is pressed exactly at the right moment at GC boot. Even when done with the right timing though, the wiikey menu will load but all but a few games hang at the cube logo when the GC is rebooted by the fusion. You can see in the video that the blue LED on the fusion stays lit the whole time after reboot. The only games I got to load properly with this motherboard were Resident Evil 2 NTSC-U and Zelda Collectors Edition NTSC-U. Both of these games load flawlessly every time...

Edit: Here is a little pic too ;)

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Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

great work Ashen!!

Now, I'm not sure if Zenloc did his "super slim" motherboard on a CPU - 10 BUT I have only been able to slim really far on CPU - 20 boards. So if you get the Wiikey fusion working on the CPU - 20 board that would be awesome. :)

EDIT: there was one time the eject didn't seem to work in your video for the CPU - 11. Why was that?
 
Re: Wii DVD + Wiikey Fusion (sd loading) on Gamecube

Not sure man. Odd stuff always happens while i'm filming. Thats the only time its done that so far. To be sure all is well I will be spending the next day or so testing a list of about 140 games.
 
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