portable N64

Bush said:
Apparently he went nuts and pissed some people off.
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He's generally disliked by the ModRetro community for something he did when he was around. But just be careful with Bacteria's guides. I know from experience that some of the stuff he says to do on those guides is incorrect.
 
Some of the differences in Bacteria's guides are because he's in the UK, using PAL instead of NTSC.

For the record, only one console was completed for the "multi". If you do it even with just two finished consoles, you'll have the only one that I know of.
 
I think Rekarp made a NES/SNES combo once, or something, right?

Also, about bacteria and his "guides":

bacteria was an admin here, but he didn't know how to handle it, and a few members suffered for it, as well as the unity of the staff. When he was asked to step down for a little while, he over reacted and ran away. A few months later, he had some people come back and attack the site using the ftp password we forgot to reset. THere were pornographic iamges put up, and large sections of the site were deleted. Ever since, he's had no problems with spreading negative things about this site, it's users, and their portables, even. As a result, no one who was around for it really likes him. The sad part is, all the users that came in later and missed it think he's this just this great guy, when they don't know the terrible things he's done.

Also, I read his N64 guide earlier today, it doesn't cover much more than XCVG's, and it uses some really retarded techniques, and there is some incorrect information in them. Everything you need to know can be found in the stickies, and if you have any questions about anything, just ask us and we'll clarify.

SS
 
oh :eek: i uuummmm didnt know that, thanks for the heads ups :)
edit: now seriously, id really appreciate it if you could answer some of my other questions, as strange as they may seem, they all directly relate with my project
 
gamefreak13 said:
Ok, so I've decided to build a multi system instead of just an N64p. from what i know only one currently exists, it was built by Bacteria i think.
Mine will have the same shape and dimensions as seen in those photos that Bush ever so kindly helped post because i'm such a newb, the mother board will just be swappable through the use of an HDMI port or two. onto some important questions, first does any one know the power requirements of the Dreamcast, i cant seem to find the #s anywhere on the web. 2nd, i would like to know if its possible to use an sd card as a memory card for consoles like the Dreamast, PS2 slim line, N64, and/or GameCube all at the same time. 3rd, is it possible to increase the total ram in an N64 past 8MB, or increase its 3D graphics capabilities or overall processing capabilities? 4th, is it possible to run Linux on an N64 and/or GameCube? 5th, is it possible to have one disk drive shared between a PS2 slim line, a GameCube, and a Dreamcast? 6th, is it possible to have a single controller for the Dreamcast, Gamecube, N64, and PS2 slim line?
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1. No clue. Try posting in the Sega Board

2. Probably possible but it would be difficult and involve a lot of programming, etc.

3. There's not really much point in that seeing as all the games are designed for either 8MB or 4MB. I don't think the N64 will even accept more than 8MB.

4. Possible? Yes. However you'd have to write your own distro. There is but there's nothing like that for N64, Dreamcast, etc. to my knowledge.

5. Nope.

6. Yes. I assume you're talking about the internal controls on this thing. You would have all the buttons hooked up to tactile switches and just hook up all those tacts to the tacts on the original controller.


Now if you're making this a multi system with every system, it's going to be big. You are going to have some big batteries and all sorts of regulators to accommodate the needs of all of the systems.
 
This will be nearly impossible. You will need to make a complex controller system using tacts wired to multiple controller boards, you will need seperate disc drives and memory card slots, as well as switches to send power through different regulators to each board. I would suggest using only two systems, and keeping them cartridge-based. Toastbucket is making a multisystem with NES and SNES clones. It will work because they can both utilize one controller, and I believe the same voltage. Keep it as simple as possible.
 
thanks, i was hoping for better news, but, facts are facts. now, do you know if i could add more ram to a ps2 or anything else, or add in a co-processor for more speed and power for more complex homebrew. cuz thats why i asked whether or not i could increase the ram on all those systems, for new homebrew and to run a decent version of linux, or when you said the N64, did you mean all the systems? and about whats going to be in it, im going to have a PS2 slim board in at all times for multimedia, and i'll have an internal slot using HDMIs to connect a second system, using a switch or two to turn it on and switch between the two consoles. i'll have the needed regulators wired onto the motherboards themselves so i can have a fairly universal power supply system. now knowing i cant make a universal controller system, i'll simply make some interchangeable controllers using an HDMI port (may seem like over kill but there smaller than a 'SCSI', more durable too) holly crap, i cant figure out if this is going to be the biggest portable ever or one of the smallest!! if anyone has any info on some of my questions or has suggestions on what i should put in my portable multi system, just feel free to post it here! :D
 
If it's a multi console thing, make the consoles interchangeable(like bac's, sigh sigh :() and then have the controller board in the seperate thing. Connect the controller from the buttons' pins through some little connector.
 
hey, thats the EXACT same thing i said, seems that im not the only one who thinks its a good idea. thanks for your input mako321, keep the ideas comin'!! :awesome:
 
gamefreak13 said:
thanks, i was hoping for better news, but, facts are facts. now, do you know if i could add more ram to a ps2 or anything else, or add in a co-processor for more speed and power for more complex homebrew. cuz thats why i asked whether or not i could increase the ram on all those systems, for new homebrew and to run a decent version of linux, or when you said the N64, did you mean all the systems? and about whats going to be in it, im going to have a PS2 slim board in at all times for multimedia, and i'll have an internal slot using HDMIs to connect a second system, using a switch or two to turn it on and switch between the two consoles. i'll have the needed regulators wired onto the motherboards themselves so i can have a fairly universal power supply system. now knowing i cant make a universal controller system, i'll simply make some interchangeable controllers using an HDMI port (may seem like over kill but there smaller than a 'SCSI', more durable too) holly crap, i cant figure out if this is going to be the biggest portable ever or one of the smallest!! if anyone has any info on some of my questions or has suggestions on what i should put in my portable multi system, just feel free to post it here! :D
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Consoles are not like PC's. You cant add things that weren't meant to be added; they simply aren't meant to utilize new components. The N64, for instance, comes stock with 4MB of RAM. You can add 4MB with the Expansion pack, but only certain games use this. Most games dont even recognize the additional RAM. Also, if you add more than that, the system won't recognize it, and it would probably prevent the system from working.
Another thing, use VGA ports. Easier to solder wires to, more simple, and cables are MUCH cheaper than HDMI.
Good luck with this, it will be very difficult. If you need help with wiring diagrams or the like, I'll be happy to sketch some up for you.
 
i dont mean to deny help, but an HDMI port is smaller than a mini VGA port and has more pins, and i think i'll take you up one the wiring diagrams sketching offer. now can you give me one of the dreamcast and PS2 slim line and gamecube, plez :D and heres a website that Joeyjoe9876 told me about http://linuxdc.sourceforge.net/ and some cool stuff i found while looking at the links http://www.fuzzymuzzle.com/Kiyoshi/Dreamcast Development Page.htm now seriously, look, things i was told was impossible, has been done, sweet! although as it turns out, installing Linux on the dreamcast is very complex :o, sigh... big surprise there. thank you Joeyjoe9876!
 
No one ever said they were impossible. We just said that if it hadn't been done already, it would be hard to do yourself.
 
well, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible. the only console that will support upgrading like that without some seriously spectacular hacking is the xbox. and thats because its really just a pentium 3 computer.

every other console is very specifically designed to run with the components inside. for example, on the ps2, every game is coded and optimized to run with 32Mb of ram. odds are, if you were to upgrade the ram, you would need to trick it into believing it still had the factory ram, in which case, you dont gain anything. and it will be like that for almost every component in every console. ;)
 
lol, I'll definitely give you credit for ambition and enthusiasm, gamefreak. I was just thinking... I'm not sure what Bacteria did to make his multi-system interchangeable, but I was thinking ISA or something similar might be an interesting route to take.

Let's take ISA for example. It was an old I/O standard on PC motherboards back in the day (the predecessor of PCI/e/2). If you look at it, you have 98 joints attached directly to it through the back of the motherboard.

I'm just spit-balling, and I am fairly n00bish with the soldering, especially on the modding scene, but it seems reasonable to me that we should be able to cut the ISA slot off of the motherboard and solder it up to all the common components of your multi-system. You would have to figure up about everything in advance, it might be a pain in the ass too... For example, pins x-x for controls, x-x for video, etc, you might have to isolate sets of pins for system-specific stuff... Then solder the system-specific components to the corresponding pin on the male contact.

Here's some quick pictures:

This is the ISA slot from the top of the PC mobo:
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The same ports from the back:
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And finally, the male contacts:
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The same concept would apply to other standards (pci, etc..), except that when you look at the male contacts of a pci card, you'll notice that it'd be a complete pain in the ass to work with unless you're particularly good at soldering to tracers...

Also, you guys might keep in mind that I run a computer store here in KS, so if you live in the US, I should be able to get you some good deals on this stuff if you want to experiment with it.
 
I was thinking along the same lines, though I think a few DSUB ports would do fine. It would also be a bit easier.
 
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