Ok guys so i am aware that this subject has been beaten to death but i simply cant anyone else who had the same trouble that i am having . First of all i do not in any way condone piracy and i assure you that all the games i mention i own or have owned and still have the cases to . to reiterate i do own the original games but as a collector i would like them to stay as pristine as possible hence the need to play backups . Ok guys so the trouble i am having is as follows my all of my ps ones play backups as i allready have a few of my favourite games backed up and they play flawlessly every time. however this back ups were not made by me and i am having trouble getting backups that i create or download(as i stated some of my games got broken or lost i still own the cases but the games are not playable) ok so these are the methods i have tried to get the backups to play and the media etc i have used ok so the first dvd burner i used was the TS-H653 this burned everything i tried to burn but theye would not work on the console the second dvd burner and the one currently installed is the optiarc AD7170S This also burns with no errors and has a lower writing speed option of 4.2x this also failed to produce a working ps1 backup please bear in mind i have 4 working modded ps1 consoles and theye all play the backups made around 4 years ago by a freind. For example i downloaded abes odysee in iso form and burned it using both of the drives and both alcahol 120 and img burn non of the results worked the disk does not even speed up after the initial spin up it simply stops and takes me to the memeory card menu i thought maybe the media i was using simply wasnt up to the job so i cloned one of the backups i allready own and is known to work . THIS WORKS EVERY TIME !!! so guys you see i am very confused i am following all the steps needed to burn ps one games but my backups i make myself simply will not load every so often i get one that loads to the playstation logo but it stays there and never gets further also thes backups sometimes dont get this far and simply give me a please enter playstation cd rom message i am very very frustrated and am running out of disks which are sony cd-r 700MB supremas and i know that theye can work as i said before a clone of an old backup on these disks works great does anybody have any ideas ???????